Presidential Forum, Mike Jones & the disgraced ex-evangelical leader

Michael: Ambrose, so what did you think of the Presidential Forum recently aired on LOGO? How did it go?

Ambrose: Nothing new. Everyone wants to repeal the Don't Ask Don't Tell. Everyone supports our federal rights...and then there was Kucinich...a true hero of LGBT community.

Michael: How about healthcare?

Ambrose: According to Dale Carpenter of Independent Gay Forum, start with the basic proposition that healthcare is something gay Americans need more than most other Americans. For gay men, the need is obvious and the stakes are very high. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimates that 232,000 gay men in the U.S. are living with HIV/AIDS. In 2005, male-to-male sexual transmission accounted for about 70 percent of new cases among males.

Dale Carpenter also wrote that HIV disease is chronic and potentially fatal. Keeping it under control requires frequent visits with doctors, monitoring of blood, and a very expensive regimen of prescription drugs. All of this places disproportionately large demands on the healthcare system, including on patients, nurses, doctors, drug manufacturers, insurance companies, and taxpayers.

Ambrose: Over time, he says, the life-saving drugs that have been available for a decade now often stop working effectively. HIV develops resistance to them. That means new drugs must replace the old ones.

Michael: Who did they say will need to provide for all that?

Ambrose: Carpenter says somebody has to provide, and to pay for, all of this expensive care.

Michael: How?

Ambrose: You know what? I agree with Carpenter. I don't think they have answers about how to reform America’s system, if at all. And it’s difficult to talk about the issue in the abstract, since the devil will be in the details.


MIKE JONES & THE DISGRACED EX-EVANGELICAL LEADER

Ambrose: Hey Michael did you get the book? Reading mine. Juicy stuff in there. Great aeroplane book I'd say.

Michael: Especially when you are stuck for hours on a Jet Blue plane you mean?

Ambrose: Oh stop it. Not interested in Jet Blue. There are some great stuff in the book. Are you done reading it yet?

Michael: Yeah some good stuff in there...especially the first page. I cannot imagine Mike Jones touching that old bastard, tho.

Ambrose: He is not a bastard. A horny evangelical leader...who didn't do what he preached. That's all...just like so many of them out there preaching in our churches. God knows how many are having regular masseurs and hookers.

Michael: Ted Haggard...even the name is wrong. God must have seen them fucking and let Mike Jones exposed him, outed him, and disgraced him in the media.

Ambrose: And God made Mike Jones a rich man. Life is funny, isn't it? People do the usual things in unusual ways, sometimes.

Michael: I agree 100%. Do you do usual things in unusual ways?

Ambrose: Such as?

Michael: Like sleeping with the enemies!

Ambrose: And who are the enemies?

Michael: The straight men and the emotionally attached screw-ups that you've been seeing/dating!

Ambrose: I don't kiss and tell. And what is wrong with straight men? I know a few cos I've had a few.

Michael: What is wrong with them? They cannot be gay like we cannot be straight. That's what wrong with them. Unless you only use them for other reasons. lol. Oh well, there is this straight guy who is super friendly to me at Equinox.
Ambrose: Hmm...always have to be in the gym. Can it be somewhere else other than the gym? That is just so convenient! Listen...let's talk about the straight guys later. What do you think of the book?

Michael: I thought it was beautifully written and presented for all it is worth. Not very inspiring tho. At least I am inspired. It was truly intended to expose the man, tell the world about an evangelical leader who didn't give him what he wanted.

Ambrose: And what do you think it was?

Michael: Honesty and money...our father in heaven, hallowed be thy name, thy kingdom come, thy would be done...

Ambrose: Ted Haggard's done, well done, that's for sure. I thought it was well expressed. I enjoyed it very much. You are not very gossipy tonight...you have to tell me about the straight guy later.

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